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NASA Won’t Confirm Relationship With Rossi

Oct 062011
 

NASA has nothing to say about Andrea Rossi’s claim that he has a relationship with NASA. Rossi is an Italian promoter who says he can produce commercially practical levels of LENR-based heat.

A source, who asked to remain anonymous, told New Energy Times that, on Sept. 5 and 6, a team comprising representatives from an investment group and NASA visited Rossi’s showroom in Bologna, Italy. The team went there with an explicit agreement about test parameters and opportunities to observe and evaluate Rossi’s claims. The team members did not observe any positive results.

The Sept. 5 test was inconclusive because Rossi’s device sprang a plumbing leak. The Sept. 6 test was inconclusive because there was no outflow of steam or water.

However, when reporter Mats Lewan from Ny Teknik showed up the next day, Rossi’s device produced an outflow of steam and water. But by then, the NASA observers had gone.

On Sept. 14, Lewan wrote that he observed Rossi’s “one megawatt [power] plant” and that the plant “is now being shipped to the United States.” The same day, Lewan wrote that he observed Rossi’s device producing excess heat without external energy input. Lewan produced and published a scientific-appearing technical report on behalf of Rossi.

The tests on Sept. 5, 6 and 7 were Rossi’s eighth, ninth and 10th attempts to show proof of his concept.

On Sept. 15, New Energy Times asked Dennis Bushnell, chief scientist at NASA’s Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia, whether he attended the Sept. 5 and 6 Rossi tests.

“We can’t discuss anything about that,” Bushnell said.

On Sept. 23, New Energy Times asked Jim Dunn, the former director of the NASA Northeast Regional Technology Transfer Center, whether he attended the Sept. 5 and 6 Rossi tests.

“You know I can’t answer that,” Dunn wrote. “All I can say is that I was ‘out of the country.’ The rest is up to your imagination.”

On Sept. 28, New Energy Times published a blog article saying that NASA engineers did not observe any positive results when they went to see Rossi’s device.

On Sept. 29, Rossi responded on his blog:

WARNING: THE SNAKE HAS WRITTEN IN HIS BLOG THAT NASA MADE A NOT POSITIVE TEST WITH US. THIS IS TOTALLY FALSE. I AM BOUND FROM A CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT AND I CANNOT GIVE DETAILED INFORMATION, BUT I CAN SAY THAT:
1- WE ARE IN CONTACT WITH NASA, WHO WANTS TO TEST OUR ECATS TO TEST THE POSSIBILITY TO MAKE THEM USEFUL FOR THEIR PURPOSES
2- NASA’S DENNIS.M.BUSHNELL HAS SAID PUBILCLY THAT NASA WILL BUY AN E-CAT AS SOON AS IT WILL BE POSSIBLE TO TEST IT
3- OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH NASA IS TOTALLY POSITIVE

On Sept. 29, New Energy Times sent a query to Robert Jacobs, NASA deputy associate administrator for communication.

We showed him Rossi’s comments and asked him these questions:

1. Did NASA personnel observe any positive results in September?
2. Do any NASA personnel have, at this time, any interest to participate in or observe additional tests of Andrea Rossi’s “Energy Catalyzer” device?
3. Does any NASA employee have any intention to buy one of Rossi’s devices under any circumstances at this time?

Jacobs replied on Sept. 29.

“I’m not personally aware of such activity, but I will check with Langley, which is where Dennis Bushnell is located, and I will have someone there contact you,” Jacobs wrote.

New Energy Times then sent the questions to Robert D. Wyman, NASA Langley news chief, on Sept. 29.

New Energy Times spoke with Wyman on Oct 4.

“Dennis Bushnell is out of the office this week, and I don’t have any further information,” Wyman said.

In other related news, Rossi is going to attempt today, for the 11th time, evidence for his claim.

This is not, however, Rossi’s promised and long-anticipated October public demonstration and delivery of a 1 megawatt power plant. The test today will be performed only on one of 52 units composing the promised 1 megawatt power plant.

On Sept. 14, Lewan published photos and video of an impressive-looking shipping container that housed 51 individual boxes, each containing a 30-litre tank, with interconnected plumbing and electrical parts sticking out of each one. The 52nd unit was on the bench for testing.

Rossi has failed to demonstrate excess heat in a single device 10 times in a row.

A recognized technology expert who saw the 1 megawatt shipping container in September told New Energy Times that he wasn’t able to overlook the obvious.

“You can’t deliver one megawatt of steam through a 2½-inch pipe unless you go hypersonic,” the expert said.

So observers of the big 1 megawatt demonstration that Rossi promised for October should look for steam exiting the shipping container in excess of 768 mph.

Internet rumors that the Rossi test would be performed using University of Bologna facilities are incorrect, according to an e-mail New Energy Times received yesterday from Paolo Capiluppi, the head of the Physics Department, in response to our questions.

“The contract is not yet active,” Capiluppi wrote. “The university is not involved with the demo by Rossi tomorrow and is not providing any university facility or laboratory.”

Other Internet rumors suggested that Rossi had granted Lewan an exclusive on the story. But Lewan told New Energy Times that is also incorrect.

“I haven’t been offered any exclusive,” he said.

As of 11 p.m. Stockholm time on Wednesday, Lewan would not say whether he would attend.

The E-Cat story has 26 days left to play out.

We Were Once Terrified of Fire, Too

Oct 052011
 

Source: American Nuclear Society “ANS Cafe”
By Steven B. Krivit

The discovery of fire a million years ago must have been terrifying to cave men and women. Since that time, many people have died and much damage to the earth has occurred as a result of chemical energy released through fire. Nevertheless, that chemical energy found its place in the world, providing great benefits, and most people take it for granted.

In stark contrast, humankind began to develop and use nuclear energy less than a hundred years ago. In 2010, nuclear energy provided 13.5 percent of worldwide electricity.

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New Energy Times Obtains DTRA Report on LENR

Oct 022011
 

On Dec. 12, 2006, the Defense Threat Reduction Agency held a meeting in Ft. Belvoir, Virginia, to review several controversial areas of research. Low-energy nuclear reactions were among those topics. New Energy Times has obtained the first public record of this meeting through the use of a Freedom of Information Act request. Click here for more information and a link to the report.

Some Responses to “NASA Advances Evaluation of Piantelli’s LENR Research”

Sep 302011
 

Yesterday New Energy Times published “NASA Advances Evaluation of Piantelli’s  LENR Research.”

In this article we wrote about a visit by NASA engineers to Bologna, Italy where they observed two tests of a device made by Andrea Rossi which he claims produces large amounts of LENR-based heat.

“On Sept. 5 and 6, a team comprising representatives from an investment group and NASA visited Andrea Rossi’s showroom in Bologna. The team went there with an explicit agreement about test parameters and opportunities to observe and evaluate Rossi’s claims. They did not observe any positive results.”

Soon after we published that article, we sent a link for the blog post to several of the sources we mentioned in the article. One of those sources was Dennis Bushnell, chief scientist at NASA’s Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia, NASA. Within a minute, Bushnell responded via e-mail.

“Well done, as usual,” Bushnell wrote. “Look forward to your reporting of the upcoming Rossi tests.”

We also mentioned Andrea Rossi in the article. Rossi responded to our article by posting the following comment on his blog:

WARNING:
THE SNAKE HAS WRITTEN IN HIS BLOG THAT NASA MADE A NOT POSITIVE TEST WITH US. THIS IS TOTALLY FALSE. I AM BOUND FROM A CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT AND I CANNOT GIVE DETAILED INFORMATION, BUT I CAN SAY THAT:
1- WE ARE IN CONTACT WITH NASA, WHO WANTS TO TEST OUR ECATS TO TEST THE POSSIBILITY TO MAKE THEM USEFUL FOR THEIR PURPOSES
2- NASA’S DENNIS.M.BUSHNELL HAS SAID PUBILCLY THAT NASA WILL BUY AN E-CAT AS SOON AS IT WILL BE POSSIBLE TO TEST IT
3- OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH NASA IS TOTALLY POSITIVE

IN A SEPARATE STATEMENT, A SNAKE’S ACCOLITE WROTE THAT THE TEST WE ARE GOING TO DO ON THE 6TH OF OCTOBER WILL BE ALWAYS MADE WITH STEAM. UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN YOU SPEAK WITH THIS PEOPLE YOU DEAL WITH PERSONS THAT HAVE REAL DIFFICULTIES TO UNDERSTAND A TITLE OF A NEWSPAPER IF THEY ARE AT THE SAME TIME CHEWING A GUM, BUT, JUST TO AVOID CONFUSION I REPEAT THAT:
THE MEASUREMENTS WILL BE MADE ON LIQUID WATER. WE WILL HAVE THE STEAM PRODUCED FROM THE REACTOR THAT WILL WORK IN A CLOSED LOOP, WHICH IS THE PRIMARY CIRCUIT, AND THE STEAM ITSELF EXCHANGES HEAT WITH THE LIQUID WATER IN A SECONDARY CLOSED LOOP, SO THAT THE WATER IS HEATED BY THE STEAM THROUGH THE WALLS OF A HEAT EXCHANGER. WE WILL MEASURE THE ENERGY TAKING THE DELTA T OF THE WATER, THE WATER, THE WATER, NOT OF THE STEAM NOT OF THE STEAM, NOT OF THE STEAM, THEREFORE THE ISSUE OF THE QUALITY OF THE STEAM HAS ABSOLUTELY NOT IMPORTANCE, BECAUSE WE DO NOT MEASURE THE ENERGY FROM THE STEAM !!!!!!! WE COULD PUT IN THE PRIMARY CIRCUIT STEAM DIATHERMIC OIL, GLYCOLE, COCA COLA: IT IS ABSOLUTELY IRRILEVANT WHICH IS THE FLUID IN THE PRIMARY CIRCUIT AS FOR CONCERNS THE MEASUREMENT OF THE ENERGY BECAUSE WE MEASURE THE ENERGY ONLY MULTIPLYING THE CUBIC METERS OF WATER FLOWING THROUGH THE SECONDARY CIRCUIT IN ONE HOUR BY THE DELTA T OBTAINED SUBTRACTING, FROM THE TEMPERATURE OF THE WATER (LIQUID) OF THE SECONDARY CIRCUIT AT THE EXIT FROM THE HEAT EXCHANGER, THE TEMPERATURE OF THE SAME LIQUID WATER AT THE INPUT OF THE SAME HEAT EXCHANGER.
ANDREA ROSSI

NASA Advances Evaluation of Piantelli’s LENR Research

Sep 282011
 

Multiple sources have confirmed to New Energy Times that a team comprising NASA engineers and an investment group from the U.S. is expanding its interest in the low-energy nuclear reaction research of Italian biophysicist Francesco Piantelli. A meeting with the group and representatives of Piantelli will take place in the next few days.

According to Dennis Bushnell, chief scientist at NASA’s Langley Research Center in Hampton, Virginia, NASA was working months ago on experiments based on Piantelli’s research.

Piantelli’s work with LENR goes back two decades and includes two dozen scientific publications and conference presentations. Piantelli and his colleagues’ only significant challenge came from a group at CERN, the European Laboratory for Particle Physics, but Piantelli’s group published an effective rebuttal.

The Piantelli group’s nickel-hydrogen LENR work remains the most promising demonstration of LENR technology. New Energy Times wrote two feature articles on Piantelli’s work in 2008. We also wrote a summary of the work in the Wiley and Sons Nuclear Energy Encyclopedia, excerpted as follows:

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Whereas electrolytic D/Pd experiments have typically produced scientifically meaningful levels of excess heat, such effects were generally observed only in the milliwatt range. The Piantelli group’s Ni-H gas experiments produced excess heat in the tens of watts.

The researchers explain that an anomalous heating effect in the Ni-H cell takes place “when a cell containing a nickel rod is maintained at temperatures above a critical value and is filled with gaseous hydrogen at subatmospheric pressures.” The critical value is obtained by a heater in the cell that provides constant input power to initially raise and keep the cell temperature at its working value, about 700K. When the heat production rises above the equilibrium condition, the authors identify this as the excited state. Because the experiment can run in the excited state for months a time, the researchers were also able to observe sporadic evidence of both neutrons and gamma rays, which are generally hard to detect in LENR systems because those experiment run for much shorter periods.

Whereas excess-heat-producing electrolytic D/Pd experiments typically ran for days before the electrode corroded or the researcher stopped replenishing electrolyte, the Piantelli group’s hydrogen gas experiments ran continuously in a stable state for months at a time. In November 1998, the group reported two experiments in Il Nuovo Cimento.

Cell “A” produced 38.9 +/-1.5 watts of heat, and cell “B” produced 23.0 +/-1.3 watts of heat. The cells produced excess power continuously at a slowly increasing rate during that period: cell “A” for 278 days; cell “B” for 319 days. The integrated excess energy was 900 MJ for cell “A” and 600 MJ for cell “B.”
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New Energy Times has published a bibliography of papers (and download links where available) from the Piantelli group here. The list includes Piantelli’s patent applications. Among other things, the Piantelli work requires very specific surface preparation performed under an ultra-high vacuum.

A few related events happened in September.

On Sept. 2, Samantha McRoskey, an analyst with Diligence Global Business Intelligence, representing an anonymous investor, contacted New Energy Times to learn more about Ni-H LENR research. We directed her to our published reports and analysis.

On Sept. 5 and 6, a team comprising representatives from an investment group and NASA visited Andrea Rossi’s showroom in Bologna. The team went there with an explicit agreement about test parameters and opportunities to observe and evaluate Rossi’s claims. They did not observe any positive results.

On Sept. 22, NASA conducted a LENR Innovation Forum workshop at Glenn Research Center in Cleveland, Ohio. Speakers included NASA scientists Joseph Zawodny, Gustave Fralick, Michael Nelson, Jim Dunn and Dennis Bushnell and retired University of Illinois professor George Miley.

At the meeting, Bushnell said that LENR has a strong potential for a new source of energy. He was optimistic about nickel powder LENR solutions.

“The temperature you can get out of [LENR] is interesting,” Bushnell said. “We’ve had to be careful [in our research in] terms of the energetics. I don’t think there is a power [limitation] problem.

“I think the problem now is of raw courage to look into something that is new. We’ve been fortunate to have a center director at Langley that has the courage to support us to do this. We’ve been at it for three or four years.

“The U.S. efforts on this, for reasons I don’t understand, haven’t gone to the Widom-Larsen theory. They also haven’t gone to try to understand the 18 years of hydrogen-nickel [work] with really superb intellectual content. We need to get off of the Pons-Fleischmann electrochemistry and get into flow systems.”

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