On Nov. 23, professor Sven Kullander of Uppsala University gave a public lecture at Orebro University, primarily on the energy claims of Andrea Rossi.
Rossi has claimed that Kullander has confirmed Rossi’s energy claim. This is an inconsistency, as is apparent from Kullander’s lecture. There is a subtle but crucial distinction: Kullander has not independently tested Rossi’s device, but Kullander however, thus far, accepts Rossi’s claim.
Here is a link to Kullander’s public announcement. Here is a link to the audio recording of Kullander’s talk. (There is a long period of silence in the beginning.) John Olov Hampus Ersa Ericsson, a sociology student at Umeå University, attended the lecture and kindly provided New Energy Times with his personal report of the lecture.
By John Olov Hampus Ersa Ericsson
On Nov. 23 I attended a lecture by Sven Kullander at Orebro University. This is only a partial report because my schedule did not permit me to attend the entire lecture.
About 100 people attended. Most of them were men, age 50 or older. Nearly half had never heard of Rossi before. They thought the lecture was going to be primarily about nuclear power, but the main topic was really about Rossi and his E-Cat.
Kullander’s presented a good lecture. He started by reviewing existing types of nuclear power. He then spoke about thermonuclear fusion and speculated when that research might eventually be practical.
Then the good part came, he talked about all the different tests that have been made of Rossi’s E-Cat. Basically, Kullander read from the Ny Teknik reports.
Then he talked about the test he personally observed in Bologna. He said that it proved that heat was made but he couldn’t say by what mechanism. He believes that the phenomenon can be explained by today’s science. He is also open to the possibility that he may have been fooled in some way but he does not feel so at this time. Kullander and Essen looked for any kind of hidden system that could explain the extra heat but they could not find one.
Kullander also said that Rossi is definitely not a fraud and that his friend Sergio Focardi, a retired professor of physics from the University of Bologna, and Giuseppe Levi, a current professor of physics with the University, are absolutely not frauds. They are his friends and he trusts them. Rossi, on the other hand, Kullander said was a “black box.”
Kullander said during the lecture that he was contacted by NASA personnel who asked him for information. Then Kullander said that NASA was Rossi’s first potential customer. Kullander said that NASA told him that they wanted to know exactly how the E-Cat worked. However, Rossi and NASA were unable to come to an agreement because Rossi was not willing to provide that information. [New Energy Times note: Kullander’s statement about NASA is incomplete and may not be correct. New Energy Times will provide more details on the Rossi-NASA relationship in the near future.] The current mystery costumer is not known by Kullander at this time.
Kullander also said that Rossi can be a little bit angry at people who don’t trust him. That’s why Kullander has remained on Rossi’s good side and why Kullander never expressed any skepticism to Rossi.
Kullander said that he has asked Rossi if Uppsala University can independently test the device, with the requirement that all information will be publicly revealed. If Rossi declines Kullander’s request, Uppsala will not test the Rossi device.
One of the most interesting things was that Kullander sad that Focardi and Levi are both excellent professors and that he believes in them 100 percent. Rossi, on the other hand, Kullander said, is a little bit of a black box. He said that there are two black boxes in this history, Rossi and his E-Cat. Kullander says that Rossi usually refers to his invention as “me and my cats.”
Kullander also said that his colleague Roland Pettersson is very enthusiastic about the E-Cat.
Kullander also showed the analytical test of the nickel fuel and the copper and nickel that remained after one of the previous (exact date unknown) Rossi experiments. Kullander says he will publish a full article on the nickel ash and the waste ash when all the testing is done. But the preliminary testing has shown copper in the waste ash.
In summary, Kullander said that the E-Cat produced excess heat that can’t be explained with a chemical process because the reactor chamber is so small.
Kullander stressed, just like Mats Lewan, how important it is to independently test the E-Cat and that Uppsala University is glad to do it. Kullander said that a real test of the E-Cat would help both the world and Rossi. A successful confirmation would bring more customers to Rossi and the world would finally know the truth.
[New Energy Times: As of today, Rossi has declined offers for independent confirmations from NASA, Francesco Celani, Brian Josephson and Peter Hagelstein.]
[Corrections Nov. 26: This article has been modified to reflect corrections. The author attends Umeå University, not Uppsala University. The lecture took place at Orebro, not Uppsala University.]
